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Billboard Canada Rock

Someone has adjusted the template for the Billboard Canada Rock chart so that it no longer sources from the Billboard Biz website but from the standard Billboard website which does not archive this chart in full. For example, for Foo Fighters, it only archives just over half of their songs that were on that chart:[1]. Therefore it needs to be changed back.QuintusPetillius (talk) 18:08, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

I noted this above and will be the same for the following charts, whose sources in the template should not have been updated: --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 06:01, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

• Bubbling Under Hot 100 Singles
• Canada AC
• Canada CHR/Top 40
• Canada Country
• Canada Hot AC
• Canada Rock

• The above 6 charts need to be reverted to the previous code such as below for the Canada Country chart. These charts are not viewable through Billboard.com and only through their business site at Billboard.com/biz. The page history will show the proper parameters for each. Thanks. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 21:21, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

|Billboardcanadacountry={{!}}Canada [[Canada Country|Country]] (''[[Billboard (magazine)|Billboard]]''){{#tag:ref|{{#if:{{{artist|}}}||[[Category:Singlechart used with missing parameters]]<span style="color:red;">ERROR: Billboard chart was invoked without providing an artist. Artist is a mandatory field for this call.</span>}}[http://www.billboard.com/biz/search/charts?f%5B0%5D=ts_chart_artistname%3A{{BillboardEncode|{{{artist}}}}}&f%5B1%5D=itm_field_chart_id%3A1240&f%5B2%5D=ss_bb_type%3Achart_item&type=2&artist={{BillboardEncode|{{{artist}}}}} "{{{artist}}} - Chart history"] [[Canada Country|''Billboard'' Canada Country]] for {{{artist}}}. {{#if:{{{publishdate|}}}|{{{publishdate}}}. }} {{#if:{{{accessdate|}}}| Retrieved {{{accessdate}}}. }}|name={{#if:{{{refname|}}}|{{{refname}}}|"sc_{{strip whitespace|{{{1|}}}}}_{{{artist|}}}"}}|group={{#if:{{{refgroup|}}}| "{{{refgroup}}}"}}}} {{Single chart/chartnote|{{{note|}}}}}

• SMcCandlish could you attend to this request please, as you have been editing the template most recently? -- Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:06, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Please confirm if the changes today have fixed this issue or not? -- Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:56, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

I'm a little late on the scene this time; will let this lie as-is unless I'm told there's still an issue to work on. -- SMcCandlish ? ¢ >^???_??^?< 14:44, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

@QuintusPetillius: @Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars: @SMcCandlish: HMM? I'm a little confused here. From my experience, the archives on Billboard.com show peak positions for more songs than the Billboard Biz site (with records going back to 2006 instead of 2012) and is updated more regularly. The chart is labelled incorrectly on the page (for example "https://www.billboard.com/music/Carrie-Underwood/chart-history/canada-country" shows Hot 100 in the box) but the peaks are consistent with the chart in the URL (in this case, Canada Country). Using the same example, this page of #1s are clearly not Hot 100 number-ones. You need to manually adjust the URL to see more than the default 10 songs displayed per page, i.e ".../canada-country/2", instead of clicking "more chart history" or else it brings you to page 2 of the chart listed in the box. This may be why some people have experienced seeing fewer songs archived. To use the requester's Foo Fighters example, the Billboard.com archive has peaks for 18 songs (10 on the landing page, and another 8 at ".../canada-rock/2"), while the Billboard Biz archive has peaks for only 6 songs, from "Something from Nothing" through "The Sky Is a Neighborhood". Not sure why we would want to use a less comprehensive referencing schema. Songsteel (talk) 19:05, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

@Songsteel: I agree. The most recent change to the template by @MSGJ: with the summary "fixes by SnapSnap" has actually reverted the helpful changes you proposed/made, Songsteel, to the Billboard links. These are no longer archived on billboard.com/biz, which has had updating problems in its archives for the past few months (as Billboard appears to have moved them over to its main website). The changes that were made to the URLs of the Bubbling Under Hot 100, Canada AC, Canada CHR/Top 40, Canada Country, Canada Hot AC, and Canada Rock need to be undone (and go back to this) as they are not helpful. Ss112 18:43, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

I have reverted these changes for now, as there seems to be some doubt over their helpfulness. Perhaps Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars would like to comment. -- Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:52, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

It certainly appears to be more accurate picture at the .com site again, although you can't say it truly verifies the info because it's not what the site says. Even if you click on the specific chart week for each song from the list on Billboard, it will go to the Hot 100 for that week. What's the true source that tells someone these are the actual peaks for those specific Canada charts? --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 17:21, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Billboard has always had some little errors here and there, including on billboard.com/biz (which no longer updates). Considering it's what shows up when the URL for that specific chart is typed in--that's what we have to go on until Billboard fixes the error. Ss112 02:32, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

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UKChartstats URL redirects

Hello. The Chartstats redirects to OCC need a slight update. For example, on All Star (song), the UKChartstats redirect points to the wrong link at when it should be without the dash in the search results. While each artist on the OCC also has a specific number, I think removing the dash would be easier to do. Thanks. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:31, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Fixed That was caused by the URL for artist links no longer being correct for the current site layout. -- SMcCandlish ? ¢ >^???_??^?< 01:26, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Other UKChartStats changes

We may have other problems, though. This site no longer uses numeric IDs in URLs for songs, but has paths like http://www.officialcharts.com/search/singles/walkin'-on-the-sun/ - even when there are different songs by multiple artists, e.g. http://www.officialcharts.com/search/singles/blue-monday/ - so our template documentation and the URLs we're generating for songs aren't right. That's more than I want to wrangle with right now; someone can work up a solution in the sandbox again. -- SMcCandlish ? ¢ >^???_??^?< 01:26, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

UKchartstats that cannot be substituted

There are articles in Category:Singlechart used with UKchartstats that cannot be substituted with UKsinglesbyname instead of UKchartstats and null edits doesn't seem to remove them. Originally, the OCC charts only archived up to 75 but now it does go up to 100 (with some exceptions such as Silver (song). I was wondering if there was a way to adjust this category instead of having to manually update them all. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 04:29, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Can you re-explain this? I'm having a little trouble following it. Not that I'm "the maintainer" of this template or anything; I just end up answered edit requests at it pretty frequently. I didn't have anything to do with its design, so I'm not sure what the issue is, or even what OCC is or what archives you're referring to, nor what the intent of the category is. -- SMcCandlish ? ¢ >^???_??^?< 14:48, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Ping: MrLinkinPark333. -- SMcCandlish ? ¢ >^???_??^?< 16:33, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Sure thing. This category was created because of this reason. As UKChartStats is no longer used in the single chart, any usage of UKChartStats are redirected to the artist's discography on the Offical Charts Company (OCC). While songs/albums from position #1-100 are on the artist's discography, any song/albums that charted in the 101-200 positions are not archived on the OCC. For example, Axis (song) says the song charted at #196 on the Official Charts Company. Since the UKChartStats template redirects to the Pet Shop Boys discography page, the website does not show if the song did indeed chart at #196 anywhere on the website. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:41, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

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BillboardURLbyName update request

Hello again. I would like to request that the Billboard URL by Name template to be updated because of the changes to the Billboard URL as seen above. For example, the BillboardURLbyName templates here in It's Goin' Down (X-Ecutioners song) are broken and I presume that other usages of the template are not working as well. Thanks. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:25, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

• That's a different template. It's being worked on. See Template talk:BillboardURLbyName. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 17:15, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

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Strange goings-on at Spanishcharts.com

I was scrolling through "Lips Are Movin"'s page when I noticed something strange: the table had the Spain peak listed at #2, but I looked at the source and saw that it was #5. I took the link over to the Wayback Machine and saw that it really did peak at #2 (at least, it used to): https://web.archive.org/web/20150326234708/http://www.spanishcharts.com/showitem.asp?interpret=Meghan+Trainor&titel=Lips+Are+Movin&cat=s I did a quick search for any other songs that this happened to and found that it happened to "Take Me to Church" too: used to be listed at #6, now it's #8. (https://web.archive.org/web/20150802151927/http://www.spanishcharts.com/showitem.asp?interpret=Hozier&titel=Take+Me+To+Church&cat=s) Anyone know what's up with this? --Markhoris (talk) 18:07, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

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Ireland Singles

IRMA now has the date search for the singles as seen here. Can the template be updated so that post Dec 2016 listings it will use this URL? --IB ^{[ Poke ]} 10:15, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

The irma.ie website isn't used at all by the template, so I don't think we need this update. There are three different chart websites for this template that mirror the IRMA results though. Apart from that I'm not sure if the official IRMA site could even be included because the search there is performed by some Java script and apparently the parameters cannot be entered directly into a url. De728631 (talk) 11:41, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

@De728631: on the contrary I think this would be needed since Chart-track.co.uk has stopped updating the singles charts after 2016, Irishcharts.ie do not show you positions below rank 30, and Irish-charts.com do not update artist discography page. --IB ^{[ Poke ]} 12:13, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

@Ss112: what do you think? --IB ^{[ Poke ]} 15:22, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

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